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eventualentropy says...

It's true that 95% of honks are after the fact but there are a few cases where it's useful. Maybe you hit a patch of ice and lose all control, maybe the person in front of is slow to move on a green light, maybe you need to signal your presence to your friend that you're picking up, etc.

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eventualentropy says...

I actually couldn't help yelling MOVE a couple times even though I knew they were going to make it based on the title (although I have to say, it doesn't look like 7:08 was a miss, sadly)

Also, the guys reaction (twice!) at -7:15 is nothing short of amazing

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eventualentropy says...

>> ^rebuilder:

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Edit: Actually, let's get into #1 a little as well. Religious morality is often portrayed as a form of truly objective morality, since, at least in the religions of the Book, it is derived from a supreme, infallible authority. But can objective morality change over time? It seems to me that many of the actions considered justified, even mandatory, as ordained by God many centuries ago are now considered reprehensible. What does this mean for the objectivity of morality as derived from religion? .


Didn't see this the first time. I think one of the most attractive qualities about religion is the idea that objective morality exists as whatever way God chooses to judge us (not so much the way we interpret the bible). There is actually something really comforting in the knowledge that somewhere out there some omniscient being is watching us and taking note when we are good/evil. It really taps into our evolutionarily ingrained ideas of fairness.

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eventualentropy says...

@rebuilder

The main issue is that people have a tendency to give way too much credit to any other given person's views on what's moral and good and what isn't (as you just demonstrated). As harris states in his talk, this does not apply to other realms of knowledge (eg. we have less respect for the 'opinion' of a member of the flat earth society than we do for a physicist).

We could argue semantics about the term objective morality but all we're really trying to do is come up with a working definition so that we can talk about these subjects in a more meaningful way. All Harris is saying is that this definition must relate to the well-being/suffering of conscious creatures. If we can accept that then we can start seeking actual, scientific answers to these questions instead of just having a mish-mash of everyone's random biases.



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