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US appalled.UN school shelling 'disgraceful'.UN:criminal act

Yogi says...

I'm not really all that sure what to make of the United States responses. It seems like to me they're trying their best to say the right things and continue to do the things they want, like voting to fund Israel during this latest skirmish.

They do seem to be under a lot of pressure to say the right things though and that's interesting. As usual with these situations it might not become all that clear until a year or years afterwards.

Thing is everybodies propaganda stream is in complete fucking overdrive. You see it on here or any social media, people leaping in and rewriting history and facts left and right. Sober analysis probably won't come till later.

Neil deGrasse Tyson on genetically modified food

Hamas to kids: Shoot all the Jews

Yogi says...

I love how insane these things are. And how there's schools and churches and tv shows in the US talking about the same stuff about Muslims. You can imagine how bad the propaganda would be if Muslims controlled Mexico or something. The US might just go insane and nuke them.

The ideas some people have, and then trying to rope children into it. It's disgusting.

TYT - Heated debat over Israel Palestine

Neil deGrasse Tyson on genetically modified food

Yogi says...

OH OH Good @ChaosEngine says there should be strong oversight. Well while we're wishing for that how about we wish for a whole host of other things to happen that never fucking will.

YIPPIE Wishing is fun! Everyone get's a wish boys and girls. If you wish for your parents to stop raping you nightly I'm afraid we angels love watching it far too much to put a stop to it. LAH DEE DAH!

ChaosEngine said:

Did you read my post you quoted?

Let me refresh your memory:

Neil deGrasse Tyson on genetically modified food

Yogi says...

Department of Energy study says Fracking is Safe. Do you believe them? Also the idea that we'd allow Fracking BEFORE it's proven to not put harmful chemicals into our drinking water is absurd. Why would we conduct a mass experiment on the public, why aren't the chemicals released to the public.

I'm sorry but some of you guys are off the fucking reservation if you think that it's just ok to do experiments on humans. Let's just try shit and hope it doesn't kill everyone. Yeah that'll work. NO these corporations need to be stopped.

LooiXIV said:

Lastly, the argument that "we don't know what they'll do" is for the most part unfounded, there are a decent amount of studies (find them yourself sorry) which show that GMO's in general won't cause harm (though it really depends on what you're trying to make). The same argument was made about the LHC "We don't know what will happen when we turn it on!" but everyone was fine

Neil deGrasse Tyson on genetically modified food

Yogi says...

So it's going to happen does that mean we should just give up and not regulate it?

It's amazing how many people here just TRUST Corporations. They're only ONLY interested in the bottom line. If they kill a few hundred people and can sweep it under the rug like GM did, why wouldn't they?

ChaosEngine said:

But the fact is, it's going to happen, and anyone who opposes it is pissing in the wind.

Neil deGrasse Tyson on genetically modified food

Yogi says...

So you can't prove a negative, let's inject chemicals into children? This world has almost been destroyed several times over because people just assumed things would be ok if they tried some shit. America was going to use Nuclear Bombs to clear a bit of Alaska and they couldn't do it because some eskimos said "You don't know what'll happen." They know now that basically all of north america would be destroyed.

So you come back with "Can't prove a negative" I come back with, STOP FUCKING WITH SHIT WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING. You can trust the government and corporations all you want. I want them regulated. Plain and fucking simple.

RedSky said:

@Yogi

How can you prove a negative? Studies have consistently found no harm from commercially available GM foods. The one study to the contrary (Séralini, tumours in mice) was found to be fraudulent and retracted.

Even if the effects are not immediate, GM foods have been available since the mid 90s, you would expect after 20 years, for there to be a discernible harmful effect, if there is one.

@billpayer

One of the main benefits GM foods can provide is increased longevity and shelf, which help to reduce wastage.

GM yields in a Mediterranean climate for common western crops are not hugely improved. However, the benefits in harsh conditions to say drought and flood resistance are substantial.

This is particularly why it's so detrimental that the EU has rejected GM foods so universally. Domestic farmers may not see huge benefit, but African producers are forced to use substandard non-GM crops for both domestic and international markets.

This is because GM crops cannot be exported to the EU market and different crop types cannot be effectively segregated. This limits their yields, in turn raises prices in a region of the world with an unsustainable, rapidly growing population and increasingly harsh conditions from climate change driven desertification.

Respect The Sport You Love

Yogi says...

They keep saying the referee didn't see it. How do they know that immediately? I mean sometimes the referee could see something but the player could own up to it before the referee has a chance to say something. I think at least some of these were the player admitting and the referee agreeing because they were just about to call it.

Not like snooker refs have a whistle.

Massive gas explosions destroy Taiwan streets 

Baby Deer Freaks Out When Belly Rub Stops

Speaking Out On Street Harassment

Yogi says...

Women in Japan have apps on their phone that they turn on and show to the person who is groping them. It tells them to please stop and what you are doing is wrong. Groping on the trains in Japan is a big big problem apparently, and the culture is one where you should never speak up or draw attention to yourself. Lots of people commit suicide on the train tracks too.

I don't have anything to add really because I'm not the largest guy but I look like someone you maybe don't want to fuck with. I have been in situations where I felt threatened by a group of people but that comes with being a referee. I always ALWAYS have the ability to just leave, and one day I probably will. Especially if people keep killing referees.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/man-accused-of-murder-in-michigan-referee-death-due-in-court/

Other than that I have nothing to add to this particular subject. I have never felt threatened anywhere but my job. I would not like to know how that feels.

@bareboards2 crushed it.

Neil deGrasse Tyson on genetically modified food

Yogi says...

Corporations and the US Government has tested many things on the American public and when people protest the answer is "Prove it hurts you." I'm sorry but that's not how it works, you have to prove that it doesn't hurt us, they onus is not on the people to bring evidence of it creating harm, the onus is on you.

So yeah because it's done in a lab by a corporation who is complicit in war crimes. Because it's done in a Lab by a government that is known for testing medicines on people without telling them. Because of these facts the onus is on you. PROVE that it is not harmful, create meaningful and effective regulation of GMOs and then THEN we might embrace all of it whole heartedly.

Until that time, these questions are valid despite what you think. It's the people in the black neighborhoods who hate cops, because the way the cops treat them. It's not an insane standpoint.

White House - U.N shelter attack totally unacceptable

Yogi says...

Ok then, don't feel the need to read anything ever then. They're un-people, just destroy them.

lantern53 said:

Hamas teaches their children to become little terrorists. Jews don't.

As for a two state solution, Hamas wants all of Israel so that's where that stands.

White House - U.N shelter attack totally unacceptable

Yogi says...

Why would they? Why would Americans? They have to be the most propagandized to. There is billions spent on public relations in all mediums in order to make sure that the actual stories don't get out. The information, the signal needs to be controlled as much as possible.

This is especially true in a democracy. You don't need to do anything when you have your boot on the populations neck. When it's a democracy though you have to Manufacture Consent of the governed so they can't possibly know what they're actually consenting to.

Also in these cases almost 100% the people most demonized is those people who are being crushed. So we have to kill the Palestinians before they destroy us all. They're seconds from doing it, we have to stop them before they kill us all. The amount of fear people need to be pumped up with is mind boggling, and it makes them do crazy things. Like argue on the internet pointlessly for hours and hours.

ChaosEngine said:

What's amazing is that even most Israelis don't know the extent of the campaign.

Listen to a former Israeli Air Force pilot talk about the way the campaign is presented inside Israel.

Side note: that guy is a moral hero. Standing up to your own government when in the military is the height of bravery IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY1P7D85xKw



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