Everyone should do this once in a while.

/hug

Awarding arvana with one star point for this contribution to Sift Talk - declared quality by gwiz665.

Respect, mon. I've been meaning to do something similar, because my PQ recently exceeded 10 (I'm serious, it'd bug me a lot even if I had a single video in it).

Anyway, I hope this inspires ant to do the same. although that would still leave 628 videos in his pqueue.

If anyone sees anything in my pq that strikes their fancy, let me know and maybe we can work something out.

>> ^EDD Anyway, I hope this inspires ant to do the same. although that would still leave 628 videos in his pqueue.


Looks more like 732 to me!

This is what everyone should do at all times.

I want to see a hard-cap on PQs at 100, so people don't hoard crappy sifts. Which they totally do, the lazy bastards.

>> ^gwiz665:
so people don't hoard crappy sifts.

If they're crappy, why would they be worth hoarding? No one is hoarding anything. Users post up videos they think are sift worthy. Just because you don't think the title is as clever as something you could come up with, or the tags are poorly written, doesn't mean that the video is crap, or that the user who initially found it shouldn't be recognized for doing so. How many top 15 videos have you seen submitted straight from ScrapeUp? How many are yours?

Users submit videos to VS for all sorts of reasons, but mostly to share. Sometimes, though, they will submit a video for no other reason than they personally like the video and want to keep a link to it somewhere online. I know I have.

This beautiful animation is a perfect example. I kept that link in a folder on my desktop for months before submitting it, because I knew that it wouldn't sift easily, if at all. As you can see, it did not sift, and sat in my pqueue for months, and even after being promoted, it still didn't make it. But while it sat in my pqueue with 3 votes for months, there was no way I was just going to kill it. I liked it and I wanted to be able to find it easily so I could show it to other people when I wasn't using my own machine.

Your notion that PQueues are some sort of personal hoard of great videos that you can magically turn in to Top 15 material is a fallacy. For the most part, they are collections of videos that the submitters liked but failed to sift for any one of a vast number of reasons, most of which don't involve the title or tags.

oh btw - this is a pretty cool thing you did arvana. I just don't like the idea of anyone saying that it's the "right" thing to do.

I was never implying that anyone else should do this -- I just wanted to do some spring cleaning.  Having all those stale videos in my account was ruining its feng shui. 

They do hoard. Many, many times have I seen videos be submitted as a dupe, which soared and gathered many votes and then transferred to another sift which was in a PQ with a bad title, bad tags, submitted at a bad time, not in tune with the current sift-zeitgeist (siftgeist?) or something else which caused the video to not be very successful. Some videos are just plain hard to get sifted (anything long or slow, which don't reward quickly) and I agree that they could have "perfect" title etc. and still not sift, but others are just plain stifled by a poor effort - even if the submitter did it in the best of intentions.

Making a good sift is like making a front page of a newspaper, some times the story is compelling in itself and the wrapping is not that important, other times a good headline or tag is needed for it to be seen by people.

If a video is in a PQ it has in essence failed to sift. I think people should realize this and let them go once in a while. If a maximum of, for instance, 100 videos were allowed in a PQ, then the submitters would be "forced" to filter what they want to try to get sifted again.

Mauz15 has earlier brought up the excellent point, which you also do now jonny, that some video may not sift and I agree, some videos are just impossible to get people to look at, but by keeping them "confined" in a PQ the submitter is doing the opposite of what he/she intends - the video is being cut off from new viewers (because no one really looks at PQs) and because no one else can even try to submit them, they will not go into the queue again until a promote or beg is used on them. And I think that's a shame.

If all you want is a bookmark, you can just kill it and bookmark the killed page. Or even bookmark the youtube (or other source).

Personally I try to kill anything that does not gather 5+ votes during a single queue time, but sometimes I'm attached to a certain video and I keep trying to get them sifted through begs or self-promotes. Other times I just kill them and try sifting it again.

I think it would be the right thing to do to just dump the whole PQ once in a while, which is why I applaud what arvana has done.

TLDR version: The PQ confines a video to a user's PQ and thus blocks it from easy access from viewers - that's a bad thing.

^fuck you, gwiz, I'm not gonna let you kill my babies

^But I just got my baby-killing device all ready? Who am I supposed to kill now??

Meh, the PQ is a crutch. And there are too many crutches around here. What with the beggar's canyon and the infinite amount of times something can be promoted. At least something has to go.

I mean, what's the point of voting, shiny star points, and Top 15 awards if we're just gonna handicap till anything can get sifted?

This is again a thin veiled attempt at using Sift Talk to have people vote on their pqueues
I've been seeing quite a few of these beg posts on Sift Talk lately. Can't we have a rule that says no begging for pqueues in Sift Talk? It feels like self promotion.