Ad hom still tolerated on the Sift
I still see personal juvenile attacks on members, and nothing is done.

We ban people in 2.5 seconds if they self link, even if they are nice people... but we let personal attacks on other members slide, giving them a couple of comment downvotes as a reward for their stupidity.

Why?
Submitted by MINK
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Well, I know I'm a pretty new member, but I'd like to think we can be a site of tolerance, even when other people demonstrate intolerance. I think the voting system does a great job in being an equalizer for people who are incorrigible assholes.
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written by blankfist

from the FAQ:
"# What can't I say in a comment?

We love a good fiery comment thread, but sometimes they go overboard. Please avoid personal attacks. It's okay to criticize ideas but refrain personal insults. Please avoid blatantly racist speech, threats, or other verbal abuse. This goes for comments in public arenas as well as private member profile comments. If a comment is bad enough it will probably be deleted due to negative feedback. If these types of comments are regular occurrences, we will probably ask you to leave the community."


probably lol. has this banination ever happened? if it has, where did we draw the line that time? who decides? is there actually any procedure or is it just "probably" ?

imo the only policy is NO adhom, ban follows single warning.

"please avoid" ??? wtf? how about "Do not ever". Sounds too fascist for you hippies?
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written by MINK

how about "Do not ever". Sounds too fascist for you hippies?

Considering how close you frequently dance to the ad hom yourself I'm surprised you are complaining about this MINK.
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written by raven

Yes, I think the rules of this site were written by a certain type of people. They agree on certain types of tolerance which align more with a popular mindset (tolerance with conditions). I, however, believe in a near absolute tolerance, but then again I do not own or operate this site. I'm not a hippie. But, still, I don't think honoring true free speech and true tolerance is a sign of "hippism" (sp?). That's just retarded... unless you were being facetious.
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written by blankfist

...because in the course of virtual interpersonal relationships where facial expressions, body language, tone and timbre are left to the imagination, combined with the lag-time in response to thread posts and no actual face to slap, it acts as a suitable replacement???
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written by choggie

besides, a few "hey assholes" or "Bite mees" are no reason to get a ruffled-repeated abuses on every thread by some tuber-troller, should be the ones we take to the group.....otherwise, has there ever really been a serious problem with it here....(this would be a good place for someone to chime in, and share with the group if that someone feels they were unfairly dealt a litany of mean-spirited, unwarranted abuse..hint hint) MINK, you're just bored again and are starting to cause problems.....what's wrong??? They run out of yer favorite brand down to the packaged goods store????
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written by choggie

I'm not sure what your citing Mink, but lets face it. We're all assholes at one point or another. Words cut deeper then swords, especially if it's an attack on a subject we are passionate about. I've had people piss me off and I can guarantee you others on VS have wanted my head on the chopping block. Continuous abuse and harassment is one thing, I don't think there is room for that. But everyone has their pride or their feelings hurt at some point. Everyone feels taken out of context or advantage of at one time or another.

I say lets take a step back and find out what the real issues are.
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written by gorgonheap

Raven, perhaps i wouldn't dance so close to ad hom if there was actually any threat of action, which there isn't.

and if you can find one instance where i have just flat out insulted someone, let me know, i will happily submit to banination, because i find that kind of behaviour sickening, even when i do it myself.
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written by MINK

Youtube sucks and one of the reasons it sucks is because it has crappy users.

The important thing is to make the sift not become like youtube.
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written by looris

a worse fate than a ban for ad-hom, is being forever relegated to the ranks of the undead-there are a few users here ignored for their past infractions, be they cloaked personal attacks, assenine world views, and the worst, inability to admit their own stupidity or tunnel-reality, with regards to an issue they are passionate about....no one wants to talk to me about Tesla, free energy, global warming, or politics, cause they know it's like climbing a greased telephone pole....(data, fact, or expert junkies) so, I satisfy the lonely hours with long-winded diatribes as a diversion at times, or use it as a spring board to shove everyone's sacred cows up the collective ass.

Where's westy when ya need him????
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written by choggie


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