inside monsanto-scientists talk about the truth

a clip from an upcoming documentary "inside monsanto".
siftbotsays...

Double-Promoting this video and sending it back into the queue for one more try; last queued Friday, May 24th, 2013 7:24pm PDT - doublepromote requested by legacy0100.

chingalerasays...

M Malevolent
O Oligarchic
N Nazified
S Succubal
A Anti-Neutraceutical
N Nonvegetarian
T Treachetourial
O Organo-assassins

The following address should be on every death to eco-terroristists' organization's, "Raze This Motherfucker", hit list:

World Headquarters Monsanto Company 800 North Lindbergh Blvd. St. Louis, Missouri 63167. Phone: 314/694-1000

Everyone who works for this corporation should be considered complicit in the undoing of species-

Monsanto is the reason bees are disappearing worldwide-
Monsanto is the reason heath care is unaffordable-
Monsanto is the reason gasoline no longer lubricates rubber and composites in combustion engines-
Monsanto is responsible for the disappearance of heirloom variety seed banks the world over-(hybrids notwithstanding, their originating variants tucked-away in bunkers)
Monsanto is a poisonous cabal of eugenicists, working to help other cunts reduce the world population through systematic, experimental means, with the world's sentients as her guinea pigs.

Someone needs to mail them some anthrax powder mixed with ricin, to get that full effect.

chingalerasays...

See, this is the kind of thread that should garner over a hundred comments-But hey, peeps would rather argue the existence of Gods and the origins of species on a CNN disaster-porn viddy (now, unsurprisingly #1 after a pitchfork and torch crowd of user-haters gang-raped another poor Christian) rather than discuss the little god's attempts to destroy species in real-time.

Kinna makes a nagger want off the planet faster than the organism can manage....

jansaid:

A bit about how they are treating farmers.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=gJ_QchB7iLg&feature=related

bcglorfsays...

Don't forgot the puppy mill they run at their HQ so that their CEO's can play soccer each lunch hour with a brand new puppy as the ball. Oh, and cancer, they invented that too...

Seriously though, there's plenty to rail against Monstanto over, but your list is just a wee bit past the point of rational opposition.

chingalerasaid:

M Malevolent
O Oligarchic
N Nazified
S Succubal
A Anti-Neutraceutical
N Nonvegetarian
T Treachetourial
O Organo-assassins

The following address should be on every death to eco-terroristists' organization's, "Raze This Motherfucker", hit list:

World Headquarters Monsanto Company 800 North Lindbergh Blvd. St. Louis, Missouri 63167. Phone: 314/694-1000

Everyone who works for this corporation should be considered complicit in the undoing of species-

Monsanto is the reason bees are disappearing worldwide-
Monsanto is the reason heath care is unaffordable-
Monsanto is the reason gasoline no longer lubricates rubber and composites in combustion engines-
Monsanto is responsible for the disappearance of heirloom variety seed banks the world over-(hybrids notwithstanding, their originating variants tucked-away in bunkers)
Monsanto is a poisonous cabal of eugenicists, working to help other cunts reduce the world population through systematic, experimental means, with the world's sentients as her guinea pigs.

Someone needs to mail them some anthrax powder mixed with ricin, to get that full effect.

chingalerasays...

☝☝☝
Rational eh?

Criminals polluting the world's food production and distribution with a cadre of lawmakers and lawyers poised to give the beast a free-pass for the foreseeable future?

In March of this year, complicit cunt Obama signed H.R. 933, ‘Consolidated and Further Continuing Appropriations Act, 2013’-Missouri Senator Joe Blunt (R) worked with Monsanto to craft the language of a 78-page section of the bill which effectively protects biotech companies from judicial scrutiny should any notable public health risks arise as the result of GMOs. -IB Times’ Connor Sheets adds, “choosing to sign a bill that effectively bars federal courts from being able to halt the sale or planting of GMO or GE crops and seeds, no matter what health consequences from the consumption of these products may come to light in the future.”

Their army of lawyers-as formidable as any of Walmart's punk-ass legal teams, work constantly to keep information out of the public scrutiny while cementing the future experimentation on humans with their tweaks to the staple food sources of the planet's food. Over-reacting??

How does one "rationally oppose" the calculated acts of criminals who not only make the laws, but stack the odds in their favor by buying those who mold the legal system in their favor?

Go educate yourself. Perhaps start with a short list of GMO crops used in just about everything??
http://www.disabled-world.com/fitness/gm-foods.php

Then check out the cases Monsanto has brought to trial against a never-ending list of farmers who have tried to take on the beast when their livelihoods were destroyed by opening their mouths....

Anyone with common-sense and a worthless high-school diploma who hasn't been drinking the Kool-Aid their entire lives should be able to see that the fucking emperor is clothed in a human flesh tuxedo....

PHJFsays...

Without getting into corporate practices, really, what does anyone have against GMO? Isn't genetic engineering supposed to be The Future and shit? I want a pet with a giraffe's head attached to a gigantic spider body. And I want it to speak French.

bcglorfsays...

I grew up on a small family farm. I went off to university and came home expecting to talk about how horrific Monsanto had been to everyone and get the first hand stories of how bad it was. Instead, every last farmer in the entire area, and these are all single family farms, stated as a matter of course that Monsanto's GMO crops made them more money, and overwhelmingly had been chosen by farmers over previous still available alternatives because it reduced their costs and increased their yields.

So I've since gone back and looked more closely at the picture, and Monsanto is still a nasty beast of a mega-corp. It's GMO crops though have been used and grown here in North America almost exclusively(and by free choice) for 20+ years, and our people aren't dead from horrific diseases yet. Go search google scholar for research on the health impacts of GMO crops and see how terrifically over stated any fears seem to be.

At the very least go educate yourself more before getting indignant when your called out for blaming health care costs and gasoline engine wear on Monsanto...

chingalerasaid:

☝☝☝
Rational eh?

Criminals polluting the world's food production and distribution with a cadre of lawmakers and lawyers poised to give the beast a free-pass for the foreseeable future?

In March of this year, complicit cunt Obama signed H.R. 933, ‘Consolidated and Further Continuing Appropriations Act, 2013’-Missouri Senator Joe Blunt (R) worked with Monsanto to craft the language of a 78-page section of the bill which effectively protects biotech companies from judicial scrutiny should any notable public health risks arise as the result of GMOs. -IB Times’ Connor Sheets adds, “choosing to sign a bill that effectively bars federal courts from being able to halt the sale or planting of GMO or GE crops and seeds, no matter what health consequences from the consumption of these products may come to light in the future.”

Their army of lawyers-as formidable as any of Walmart's punk-ass legal teams, work constantly to keep information out of the public scrutiny while cementing the future experimentation on humans with their tweaks to the staple food sources of the planet's food. Over-reacting??

How does one "rationally oppose" the calculated acts of criminals who not only make the laws, but stack the odds in their favor by buying those who mold the legal system in their favor?

Go educate yourself. Perhaps start with a short list of GMO crops used in just about everything??
http://www.disabled-world.com/fitness/gm-foods.php

Then check out the cases Monsanto has brought to trial against a never-ending list of farmers who have tried to take on the beast when their livelihoods were destroyed by opening their mouths....

Anyone with common-sense and a worthless high-school diploma who hasn't been drinking the Kool-Aid their entire lives should be able to see that the fucking emperor is clothed in a human flesh tuxedo....

notarobotsays...

The idea of modifying organisms to produce foods that have stronger, more desirable qualities is not in of itself bad. Just as understanding the human genome is all about learning how things work. Issues come up over the use of that knowledge. Once you know how to utilize atomic energy, do you build a network of high-speed electric trains or destroy a city? The knowledge generated by this scientific research has been mismanaged. And yes, much of that boils down to lawyers, patents, greed, corruptions, and other corporate practices.

As far as your pet desires, perhaps a duck-horse, or shark-gull?

PHJFsaid:

Without getting into corporate practices, really, what does anyone have against GMO? Isn't genetic engineering supposed to be The Future and shit? I want a pet with a giraffe's head attached to a gigantic spider body. And I want it to speak French.

enochsays...

@bcglorf
seriously?
thats your argument?
anecdotal evidence?

@chingalera didnt mention health care costs once but he DID however point out the legal practices,corporate policies and outright purchasing of legislators.

and good god monsanto has ass-fucked small farmers (just like your family) all over north america and the world.

have a look:
http://videosift.com/video/north-american-farmers-VS-Monsanto-david-vs-goliath

and one of the main reason the data is so sparse on the effects of GMO crops is mainly due to monsanto KEEPING IT SECRET by way of lawyers and gag orders.

how come hmmmm?
why are they spending millions in shutting farmers and even their own scientists from speaking out?

you really need to check into monsanto more my friend.there is a resounding theme forming the more you research and you aint gonna like it.

bcglorfsays...

I guess I need to quote @chingalera:
Monsanto is the reason heath care is unaffordable-
Monsanto is the reason gasoline no longer lubricates rubber and composites in combustion engines


As for Percy Schmeiser, I agree he should have won in his case, and it was a bad legal wrangling. I also, however vehemently disagree with your characterization of him as one of the many small farmers just like everyone I know.

Schmeiser admits that he deliberately sprayed his own seed crop with round up, harvested the surviving plants, and used them for seed the following year. You can't make a much more concerted and deliberate effort than that to get seed that is from Monsanto's GMO plants. Schmeiser's complaint was not that his seed that he'd used for decades was contaminated, his complaint was when Monsanto found out and came to sue him for planting their seed without paying the patent tax. I agree he was legally correct and should not have had to pay anything to Monsanto. But I don't see how Schmeiser is anything like farmers intentionally buying and planting Monsanto GMO crops, or anything like farmers choosing to continue to grow and replant their own seed. Nobody growing and raising their own heritage seed has made it part of their rotation to deliberately kill off their seed crop before they could harvest it. Even if they did, there would plainly never be any seed there to plant. Monsanto's 'attacks' on small family farms have not come against those that buy from Monsanto, nor have they come against those that choose to user any other seed from any other source including their own. Monsanto's suits have been limited to those farmers that ARE planting and growing Monsanto's seeds without buying it from them.

The situation between Monsanto and farmers is nothing like the ridiculous half truth extremes shown in this video or the one you linked. I didn't just base this opinion on some video a watched, but instead on multiple first hand accounts, and extensive searches through scientific journals on Google Scholar. If you want to dismiss that as anecdotal while pointing at some agenda laden video as 'real' evidence then you may have hit upon the problem here...

enochsaid:

@bcglorf
seriously?
thats your argument?
anecdotal evidence?

@chingalera didnt mention health care costs once but he DID however point out the legal practices,corporate policies and outright purchasing of legislators.

and good god monsanto has ass-fucked small farmers (just like your family) all over north america and the world.

have a look:
http://videosift.com/video/north-american-farmers-VS-Monsanto-david-vs-goliath

and one of the main reason the data is so sparse on the effects of GMO crops is mainly due to monsanto KEEPING IT SECRET by way of lawyers and gag orders.

how come hmmmm?
why are they spending millions in shutting farmers and even their own scientists from speaking out?

you really need to check into monsanto more my friend.there is a resounding theme forming the more you research and you aint gonna like it.

enochsays...

@bcglorf
thanks man.
that was a most excellent reply.

then we are in a fundamental disagreement on the practices of monsanto.
i was under the understanding that percy had been targeted by monsanto because of cross pollination coming from his neighbors farm.which then found its way into his crop.

monsanto claimed the genetic markers gave them property rights and that percy was liable.

maybe i misunderstood.

and most documentaries are trying to make a point and by its very nature will be biased.so i agree with your point there but i cannot agree that monsanto is somehow some benevolent multi-national corporation who has not enacted and used with extreme prejudice an army of lawyers to silence and intimidate those who would speak out against them.

they make scientology look like a bunch of bed wetters.

i guess my main problem,politics and corruption aside,is that we are talking about a basic necessity:food.

you cannot patent life.
if you change the fundamental nature of that life there should be open and transparent study and discussion.
in both of these cases the public is left in the dark and any questions or dissent is met with legal papers.

i mean.who besides a corporation would develop a "suicide gene"?

i am not saying this is a simple issue but the situation does deserve some serious scrutiny.

anyways.thanks for the great response my friend.

bcglorfsays...

Thanks, I think we may be in more agreement than it seems too. I'm vehemently opposed to the majority of current patent and copyright law. Monsanto is one of the worst when it comes to 'making the most' of prosecuting people who by all rights should be able to do what they are doing were it not for existing patent law, and it should be stopped. I just don't see Monsanto stripping away choice from farmers in anywhere near the way as some describe. The only guys losing their lunch to Monsanto are the smaller seed developers/sellers, and those guys are going out of business not for Monsanto lawyers, but for having inferior products in the eyes of their customer(farmers). Sure, Monsanto has sued some guys growing/using their own seed, but those have been almost entirely guys like Percy who are deliberately looking for ways to grow Monsanto's seed without paying the patent tax. I'm of the opinion Monsanto is wrong to be doing even that, but these videos make out as though Monsanto is targeting a far broader range of people than it in fact is.

enochsaid:

@bcglorf
thanks man.
that was a most excellent reply.

then we are in a fundamental disagreement on the practices of monsanto.
i was under the understanding that percy had been targeted by monsanto because of cross pollination coming from his neighbors farm.which then found its way into his crop.

monsanto claimed the genetic markers gave them property rights and that percy was liable.

maybe i misunderstood.

and most documentaries are trying to make a point and by its very nature will be biased.so i agree with your point there but i cannot agree that monsanto is somehow some benevolent multi-national corporation who has not enacted and used with extreme prejudice an army of lawyers to silence and intimidate those who would speak out against them.

they make scientology look like a bunch of bed wetters.

i guess my main problem,politics and corruption aside,is that we are talking about a basic necessity:food.

you cannot patent life.
if you change the fundamental nature of that life there should be open and transparent study and discussion.
in both of these cases the public is left in the dark and any questions or dissent is met with legal papers.

i mean.who besides a corporation would develop a "suicide gene"?

i am not saying this is a simple issue but the situation does deserve some serious scrutiny.

anyways.thanks for the great response my friend.

Lawdeedawsays...

Easiest way to put it--You cannot separate the genetics (Politics) from the idea.

PHJFsaid:

Without getting into corporate practices, really, what does anyone have against GMO? Isn't genetic engineering supposed to be The Future and shit? I want a pet with a giraffe's head attached to a gigantic spider body. And I want it to speak French.

Yogisays...

Agent Orange was the chemical used by the us government in Vietnam. It is responsible for a quiet Genocide of it's people for the last 40 years. Monsanto and Dow chemical were the producers of Agent Orange.

Big Corporations own the government, this isn't news. Monsanto will do whatever they can to keep any negative press away from the people. If corporations like Monsanto with their profit today look at the future keep winning, there will be no future for us. We will have destroyed everything by letting these corporations rule us.

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