Sanchez Destroys Scott Of Conservatives for Patients Rights

CNN's Rick Sanchez Destroys Rick Scott Of 'Conservatives for Patients Rights' - 08/06/09
Stormsingersays...

"Noone went to jail. I was never accused of anything."

And right there is the fucking problem! Our government is so bought and paid for that even massive fraud by corporate interests will never lead to charges for anything.

But let's look forward, not back...

I firmly expect nothing to come from this "reform" initiative...and I firmly expect that within the next ten years, we're going to see some serious bloodshed over the question of who the government is supposed to be serving -- the people, or the corporations.

MaxWildersays...

Yeah, he's got some crazy eyes, but he was not "destroyed" by any mesure. *IF* he really has higher patient satisfaction and lower costs, then he has a real point. But I suspect those patient satisfaction surveys were not entirely honest. I know very few people who are satisfied with health care, no matter where they get it. And if their hospital choices go from 5 local hospitals to 1, it's hard to believe people are being treated properly or cheaply in an overflowing hospital.

NetRunnersays...

So this is the 21st century version of "yeah, we killed lots of Jews, but at least the trains ran on time":

Yeah, our operating rooms were filthy, and the equipment was substandard, but at least we were profitable, and hardly anyone sued us.

enochsays...

rick scott?
THE rick scott?
yeah...this is the guy you want representing health care /snark.
he has been from day one a proponent of profit-driven hospitalization.
christ on a stick!
check out why he was canned by his own board of directors in 1997.
check out who he is affiliated to.
compare what he is saying here and what he ACTUALLY directed his own multi-million hospital corporation to do to save money.
patients rights?
patients rights?
the ONLY thing this man is interested in is keeping his investments solvent.
he could not give two shits about your rights,your mothers,sisters and the goofy kid next door.
why these people allow themselves to become pawns in a game that only benefits people OTHER than themselves is beyond me,it defies logic!
good lord i want to to smack the smug right out of him...sanctimonious,hypocrtitcal PRICK.


and before anybody gets any ideas,my problem is NOT with profit nor self-interest,but when that self-interest defies the charter of your corporation and puts peoples lives,people who entrusted those lives to you,at risk..well..you can just eat a big helping of STFU.
because you have lost the right to ANY trust and should die, in what milton friedman called "the good death".
may he lick the balls of a syphillis infected rhinocerous.

bobknight33says...

This is a bullshit rail job. The government is a bullshit answer to health care.

I have been in health care to 20 years. HCA an the like are good for health care by consolidating systems and buying bulk. Think about buying a CT for 1.6 Mill. HCA can negotiate their price to down to the 1.2 mil mark and pass the savings on to the people.


Government meddling keeps health care prices high, not capitalism.

RedSkysays...

Very good interview. For what it's worth although he did delibarately avoid answering some questions, I thought he had reasonable claims, assuming they were true, to back up his position if in fact his chain of hospitals did statically have some of the lowest costs and the highest levels of patient satisfaction.

Although I am very skepital of this, since as Sanchez correctly pointed out, the strategy when it comes to operating private hospitals in the US does typically involve killing off competitors in a region and thus removing the incentive to innovate, keep prices low and keep patient satisfaction high. There is no doubt that more stringent anti-trust regulation is needed in this area. Given that, this certainly wasn't on the same level as the guy who got owned on Hardball for not knowing what appeasement was in a historical context.

Although of course some of what he said, and really his main message was clear FUD: that public systems are inherently bad, that government operated system are inherently bad and that taxes going up is the main issue.

dystopianfuturetodaysays...

It's depressing to know that there are people ignorant enough to jump on this wild eyed shit peddler's bandwagon. Even those who don't like the idea of Universal care should have some inkling that this guy doesn't have their best interest in mind.

MaxWildersays...

I want universal healthcare. I don't believe what this guy is claiming.

I just want somebody to disprove his claims, that's all. Because if you can't disprove his claims, he has an argument. Are you the type of person to take a position that cannot be swayed by opposing facts? I'm not.

If Sanchez wanted to "destroy" Scott, he would have said why those patient surveys were bullshit, and why costs weren't truly lowered. Without countering those arguments, Scott wins.

Bradaphrasersays...

Sanchez, "Yes, but let me tell you what some people say about your company..."

"...some people say..." Those are weasel words. I agree that public health care is better (find someone from Canada that doesn't like their system, I dare you), but weasel words make a poor interview if you don't already agree with the interviewer. Even then, it's a lousy interview, you just agree.

Comon, Sanchez! There's so much dirt on this guy all over the place! SURELY you can cite some sources or something!

lavollsays...

so he wants to wal-mart hospitals and health care. yay.

what if your taxes went up a little but your insurance costs went down more? whats so bad about that? is it the idea that some of your money might end up benefiting some of your fellow countrymen and not you yourself directly that hurts so much?

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