There is a better version of this speech here, from another angle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_0kFU7IfPM

Nice, that's much better.>> ^BicycleRepairMan:

There is a better version of this speech here, from another angle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_0kFU7IfPM

*quality

Boosting this quality contribution up in the Hot Listing - declared quality by gwiz665.

A gem at the 6:43 mark: "[Ratzinger] is an enemy of women, barring them from the priesthood as if a penis were an essential tool for pastoral duties."

Classic.

Any one care to defend the Pope on these points?

The one that gets me is how the Hitler thing keeps reappearing, man come on, Dawkins is so practised in swatting this idiotic notion that he could cut you off before you got the H in Hitler out of your mouth.

"ignominious expedient"

I couldn't help but think of Captain Barbossa: "There are a lot of long words in there"

Oh how I wish we had some RD characters here in continental Europe... we really need them!

Can't fuck an alterboy without a penis.
>> ^petpeeved:

A gem at the 6:43 mark: "[Ratzinger] is an enemy of women, barring them from the priesthood as if a penis were an essential tool for pastoral duties."
Classic.

>> ^gwiz665:

Can't fuck an alterboy without a penis.
Wanna bet? You can do wonderful tricks with those little "Buddy Christ"-collectibles.

Catholics are an easy PC-approved target for these folks and the left in general. Boys were being buggered by criminally mental defectives, not "in the name of the Catholic Church."

Remember the hypocrisy: a "small" group of jihadists continue their worldwide assaults and we're told they are not a part of islam while a small group of criminal priests = blanket condemnation of the world's one billion Catholics.

Meanwhile... Revealed: UK’s first official sharia courts

>> ^quantumushroom:

Catholics are an easy PC-approved target for these folks and the left in general. Boys were being buggered by criminally mental defectives, not "in the name of the Catholic Church."
Remember the hypocrisy: a "small" group of jihadists continue their worldwide assaults and we're told they are not a part of islam while a small group of criminal priests = blanket condemnation of the world's one billion Catholics.
Meanwhile... Revealed: UK’s first official sharia courts


I think the concern here is more the orchestrated coverup extending to the highest levels of the catholic hierarchy. I don't think anyone has a problem with practitioners of catholicism. Further, Islam has by no means escaped atheists' censure.

Catholic anti-semitism was barely mentioned on the news after the Pope (you know that just sounds like a stupid name) blames the Holocaust on athiesm.

Anyway, Dawkins rocks.

>> ^quantumushroom:

Catholics are an easy PC-approved target for these folks and the left in general. Boys were being buggered by criminally mental defectives, not "in the name of the Catholic Church."
Remember the hypocrisy: a "small" group of jihadists <snip...>
Don't miss the forest for the trees.

Uhmm... yah. We have the same thing here, if you don't remember take a look.>> ^quantumushroom:
Meanwhile... Revealed: UK’s first official sharia courts

Thumbs up purely for the lady on the left signing the speech.

>> ^Kerotan:

Thumbs up purely for the lady on the left signing the speech.


I like to pretend she's mocking him.

So according to Dawkins, since Hitler was Catholic, all of his evil was part of the Great Catholic Plan, and the Catholic Church was in cahoots with him all along?

Fail.

"Godlessness" made Hitler and Stalin monsters? Oh no. Both of those vermin considered themselves to be gods, and really, since there's 'no God', why not?

>> ^Kerotan:

Thumbs up purely for the lady on the left signing the speech.


Great, now I know the sign for 'rape'

@Kerotan @blankfist

I don't read sign language, but after watching that woman, I'm pretty sure the symbol for "church" is quite ironic.

@quantumushroom

You really read/hear what you want to hear. Dawkins was simply pointing out the hypocrisy. The Pope says atheism is to blame for Hitler's actions, so Dawkins pointed out a bunch of ways Hitler was connected to the church by events and his own personal statements/writings. He didn't make any sort of conspiratorial statements. Stop making shit up.

The only thing he said that even borders on it was "no wonder he received such support" from within the hierarchy in Germany...he never mentioned the Pope or the Vatican when talking about any of this. He's just pointing out how the hierarchy of the church isn't immune to politics, greed, and corruption. This, is of course what the Pope is trying to imply (ironically) by saying Hitler was atheists' fault.