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Proof The Tea Party isn't Racist

If you have 5:31 to spare and are a fan of vomiting furiously, get a load of this asshole, er, I mean patriotic non-racist 'Murikan.
VoodooVsays...

Besides...them being racist is really not the reason Teabaggers shouldn't be in power.

They pretend that they're not Republicans, but that's a lie. They pretend that they want more fair taxation, but Fair Tax is anything BUT fair and obviously favors the wealthy. They're anti-illegals, but they bend over backwards to accomodate the corporations that hire them to improve the bottom line. They pretend they are this grass root movement, but they've received plenty of corporate backing.

They, like Republicans, operate under the myth that being rich and successful go hand and hand with morality and education, when it's actually usually the opposite. Those unhindered with morality and integrity are often the ones willing to exploit and manipulate their way to the top. You don't need to be educated to be successful, you just need to know how to play the game and be ruthless.

The best and brightest of humanity are not necessarily rich and/or successful.

Teabaggers being shameless racist is the least of the issue.

conansays...

what a dilemma. i'd like to upvote so more do see this hatemongering despicable fuckhead and his crazy spindoctor racist bullshit. but i fear that upvoting is somehow promoting this dipshit stupid redneck fuck of ass, so i just leave him and hope his loved god strikes him with lightning.

NetRunnersays...

>> ^blankfist:

This guy is a fucking racist idiot that doesn't even recognize he's racist nor a fucking idiot. Who is this guy? Though, to be fair, one guy hardly represents the entire tea party. He's just some nimrod with a stupid website and the internet: http://conservativesportsmen.com/


My main point here is that comments like "the Tea Party isn't racist" is indefensible. You can try to play No True Scotsman games, and claim that no example of a racist Tea Partier is actually a Tea Partier, but you guys really should climb down from those kinds of absolute blanket statements.

But honestly now, do you really think this guy is unique? Yes, he's an unusually clear-cut case of cognitive dissonance on race, but do you really think he's the only one with cognitive dissonance about race within the so-called Tea Party?

For example, do Tea Partiers generally feel like whites are being oppressed by minorities these days?

blankfistsays...

@NetRunner, well, I don't know because I try not to lump individuals into collectives, statist.

Honestly though, I absolutely know there are racists in ever party, even the Libertarian Party. It's human. I just don't want to categorize the TP as being racist because some of its members, just like I haven't done so to the Democratic party for it's racist founder: Andrew Jackson.

GeeSussFreeKsays...

>> ^blankfist:

@NetRunner, well, I don't know because I try not to lump individuals into collectives, statist.
Honestly though, I absolutely know there are racists in ever party, even the Libertarian Party. It's human. I just don't want to categorize the TP as being racist because some of its members, just like I haven't done so to the Democratic party for it's racist founder: Andrew Jackson.


You mean the man responsible for one of the larger acts of treachery towards the natives, of which helped him win the war of 1812, was a democrat? Wait, Abraham Lincoln was a republican? It is hard for me to recite my trite narrative with this historical evidence in my path!

NetRunnersays...

@blankfist well, that's a little more honest at least than some of your other statements on this topic.

Thing is, which Democratic policies do racists like? I can name the conservative ones racists like pretty easily: strict immigration policy, the abolition of civil rights protections, racial profiling by law enforcement, abolishing food stamps, abolishing welfare, ending affirmative action, opposing sexual discrimination laws, opposing any hint of social pressure to be "politically correct", harassing a black President to prove he was really born in America and not Africa, etc., etc., etc.

It seems to me that if your conscious or unconscious desire is to keep the non-white races down (or simply keep your own race's preferential status), there's not really much to attract you to the Democratic party platform, or liberal ideology generally. I mean, at the root we're looking for a more egalitarian society, so if you want inequality you pretty much have to go with the other team.

I think the Simpsons nailed it with "Fox News: Not Racist, but #1 with Racists!"

PS: I've come to the conclusion that Andrew Jackson should be the Tea Party's hero. Read this and tell me he doesn't sound like a Tea Party dreamboat!

NetRunnersays...

>> ^blankfist:

So, if you're not an ardent defender of women's rights, then you must be... racist? Not sure where you're going with this. Won't you stop hijacking your own video post? Teahad!


I noticed you reversed my causation in your previous comment too. I'm saying racists like conservative policies, not that all people who like conservative policies are racist.

Is this an intentional misunderstanding? I hear this a lot from conservatives.

To use a less charged example, I'm saying "if you're a dog, you probably have four legs" and you're coming back and saying "You're crazy if you think anything with four legs is a dog!"

What I'm actually saying is sufficiently controversial and debatable enough without you misrepresenting it.

NetRunnersays...

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:

You mean the man responsible for one of the larger acts of treachery towards the natives, of which helped him win the war of 1812, was a democrat? Wait, Abraham Lincoln was a republican? It is hard for me to recite my trite narrative with this historical evidence in my path!


Andrew Jackson's platform reads like a Tea Party masturbation fantasy. He eliminated the national debt, he eliminated the Federal Reserve of his time, he wanted to eliminate paper money (gold and silver coins only, please!), and thought a federal highway or rail system was unconstitutional. Hey, wasn't the Confederacy a project embarked on by a bunch of Southern Democrats who believed in states' rights? Totally different from Southern Republicans advocating so many of the same things today, because, like, Abraham Lincoln and stuff.

That sounds like solid historical evidence to me. Evidence that supports my hypothesis, though.

It must be hard indeed for you to recite your trite narrative with all that historical evidence in your path!

spaceisbigsays...

I don't really want to get into this discussion but it bothers me when people bring up the party of historical figures. In the time of Andrew Jackson I do believe the Whig party was actually still around. Yes Abraham Lincoln was a Republican, but his ideology reads as a Democrat's would nowadays. Also, many people consider the time period of Civil Rights in the U.S. a time when the political ideology of the two parties actually swapped.

GeeSussFreeKsays...

Right, your logic is undeniable, if you want sound money, no central bank, or state works projects, your are a racist. Glad we cleared up your position.
>> ^NetRunner:

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
You mean the man responsible for one of the larger acts of treachery towards the natives, of which helped him win the war of 1812, was a democrat? Wait, Abraham Lincoln was a republican? It is hard for me to recite my trite narrative with this historical evidence in my path!

Andrew Jackson's platform reads like a Tea Party masturbation fantasy. He eliminated the national debt, he eliminated the Federal Reserve of his time, he wanted to eliminate paper money (gold and silver coins only, please!), and thought a federal highway or rail system was unconstitutional. Hey, wasn't the Confederacy a project embarked on by a bunch of Southern Democrats who believed in states' rights? Totally different from Southern Republicans advocating so many of the same things today, because, like, Abraham Lincoln and stuff.
That sounds like solid historical evidence to me. Evidence that supports my hypothesis, though.
It must be hard indeed for you to recite your trite narrative with all that historical evidence in your path!

blankfistsays...

>> ^spaceisbig:

I don't really want to get into this discussion but it bothers me when people bring up the party of historical figures. In the time of Andrew Jackson I do believe the Whig party was actually still around. Yes Abraham Lincoln was a Republican, but his ideology reads as a Democrat's would nowadays. Also, many people consider the time period of Civil Rights in the U.S. a time when the political ideology of the two parties actually swapped.


Too late! You're in the discussion now, pal! No backing out! (<-- winkey smiley face means I kid)

I agree that a lot of what defined Lincoln is what also currently defines a modern Democratic politician. But mostly in terms of a large, centralized federal government versus a union of states with their own individual and self-defined rights. He did, however, suspend habeas corpus and locked up US citizens without trial for sedition. Mainly people in the free press he deemed 'Confederate Sympathizers'.

NetRunnersays...

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:

Right, your logic is undeniable, if you want sound money, no central bank, or state works projects, your are a racist. Glad we cleared up your position.


Ahh, this does seem to be an issue conservatives can't seem to just respond to directly.

I say: If p then often q.

You say: I can't believe you'd say if q then always p!

So again, you're reversing the causation from what I'm saying. I'm saying racists sure do love hard money and states' rights.

I don't expect agreement from you or @blankfist on this, but I'd at least like to hear some push back on what I'm actually saying.

GeeSussFreeKsays...

>> ^NetRunner:

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
Right, your logic is undeniable, if you want sound money, no central bank, or state works projects, your are a racist. Glad we cleared up your position.

Ahh, this does seem to be an issue conservatives can't seem to just respond to directly.
I say: If p then often q.
You say: I can't believe you'd say if q then always p!
So again, you're reversing the causation from what I'm saying. I'm saying racists sure do love hard money and states' rights.
I don't expect agreement from you or @blankfist on this, but I'd at least like to hear some push back on what I'm actually saying.


If it's not causation, then who the fuck cares? Racists love freedom and limabeans as well, so what? It is just senseless mudslinging and political Red Herring non-sense. If you want to talk about meaningful racism, focus on how unemployment via minimum wage affects AA'can more than whites. Or how jails are overcrowded with a disproportionate amount of AA'can.

And I hate that you are taking one obvious racist here as the lump sum or racists. In my life time, I have met far more racist black and mexican people than whites. Racism isn't confined to whites, nor whites like this person. It is entirely inaccurate, or at best only partically accurate. 60%-80% of black males vote democrat, so p then often q for that.

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