LA Gang Members Fighting in Syria Don't Give a Hoot, Homie

From the Washington Post:

Two Los Angeles gang members appear to have joined the flow of foreigners flocking to fight in Syria – in this instance, on the side of President Bashar al-Assad. In a video posted online, the two men boast that they are on the front lines and fire their guns in the direction of what they call "the enemigos."
One of the men identifies himself as Creeper from the Sur-13 or Surenos, a loose affiliation of southern California gangs linked to the Mexican mafia. He rolls up his sleeves to show his gang tattoos and greets fellow gang members Capone-E and Crazy Loco.

The other says he is called Wino, and belongs to a gang called Westside Armenian Power. Members of the Armenian Christian minority in Syria are known to be staunch supporters of Assad.

The two men don't reveal much about what they are doing or why they are fighting for Assad.
"It's Syria, homie, we're in Syria, homie. ... Frontline, homie, frontline, homie," says Wino.
"In Middle East, homie, in Syria, still gangbanging," says Creeper, in comments typical of the 2 1/2-minute video.

Warning: the video, posted here, contains strong language. This version is provided by the Middle East Media Research Institute, and contains subtitles.
It was impossible to independently verify the authenticity of the video or determine where or when it was filmed. But the desolate scene in which the two men are firing from a bombed building looks like Syria.

The Middle East Media Research Institute, a pro-Israel group that monitors media in the region, said it had identified Wino as Nerses Kilajyan, whose Facebook page features multiple photographs of the man who calls himself Wino, apparently in the northern Syrian city of Aleppo. In some, Wino is seen posing with fighters from the Shiite Hezbollah militia. In others, he is pictured with the man who calls himself Creeper. The dates on the photographs suggest the pair have been in Syria for about a year.

It was also unclear whether they are U.S. citizens. So far, there have been no reported instances in which Americans have volunteered to fight in Syria on behalf of Assad, though at least 50 U.S. citizens are believed to have traveled there to join the rebels, according to congressional testimony by Director of National Intelligence James Clapper last month. Thousands of Arabs, Europeans and Sunni Muslims of other nationalities who have flooded into Syria, most of them joining radical Islamist groups.

Thousands of Iraqi and Lebanese Shiite Muslims are meanwhile reported to be fighting on the side of Assad's government, as well as Iranians, some Russians and smaller numbers of Afghans, Pakistanis and other Arabs, making this a truly international war.
shatterdrosesays...

Might not be a bad idea. We should invent some massive war on a deserted island and convince all the dumbass gangbangers to go out there and shoot each other . . . . At least they'll stop playing Call of Duty . . .

articiansays...

The problem with that is that Gangbangers are generally Gangbangers because they have very few other choices in life. Their social, financial, educational and familial situations pretty much steer them in the direction of violence and thuggery.
So what you're saying is: Let's round up all the poor, uneducated violent people in the US and put them on a deserted island so they can kill each other off.
You've got to fix the broken system that generates these fools, because others will be bred to take their places if you only wipe out the ones that exist now.

shatterdrosesaid:

Might not be a bad idea. We should invent some massive war on a deserted island and convince all the dumbass gangbangers to go out there and shoot each other . . . . At least they'll stop playing Call of Duty . . .

siftbotsays...

Tags for this video have been changed from 'Dawg, AK47, Gang, Terror' to 'Dawg, AK47, Gang, Terror, homie' - edited by kulpims

shatterdrosesays...

I agree with you up until the point that these are full grown men and sadly, there may not be much we can do to help them. The next generation, totally salvageable.

Also, not all poor people are violent. Violent people are violent, and these guys top the cake. But then again, there have been so many cases of soldiers coming back saying they only went because they wanted to know what it's like to kill someone. These aren't poor people either.

But don't get me wrong, I totally agree it's a broken system and so many of the problems of society are easily preventable so long as you can prevent the Right from calling it Socialist or Communist . . .

articiansaid:

The problem with that is that Gangbangers are generally Gangbangers because they have very few other choices in life. Their social, financial, educational and familial situations pretty much steer them in the direction of violence and thuggery.
So what you're saying is: Let's round up all the poor, uneducated violent people in the US and put them on a deserted island so they can kill each other off.
You've got to fix the broken system that generates these fools, because others will be bred to take their places if you only wipe out the ones that exist now.

chingalerasays...

I disagree about the salvage-time. Generationally-speaking, I'm thinking more like three or four when you're considering the systems that created them have been entrenched planet-wide for over what, 1500 years?

Socialism, Communism, Fascism, various religious constructs, all come from a singular source. Tyrannical unilateral control over minds. Left, right, center...all constructs created as a distraction from the real evil there Neo.

shatterdrosesaid:

I agree with you up until the point that these are full grown men and sadly, there may not be much we can do to help them. The next generation, totally salvageable.

Also, not all poor people are violent. Violent people are violent, and these guys top the cake. But then again, there have been so many cases of soldiers coming back saying they only went because they wanted to know what it's like to kill someone. These aren't poor people either.

But don't get me wrong, I totally agree it's a broken system and so many of the problems of society are easily preventable so long as you can prevent the Right from calling it Socialist or Communist . . .

shatterdrosesays...

Sadly I think you may be right. I wish it wasn't true, but it will take a long long time and that's only if the powers that be actually start doing something about it.

chingalerasaid:

I disagree about the salvage-time. Generationally-speaking, I'm thinking more like three or four when you're considering the systems that created them have been entrenched planet-wide for over what, 1500 years?

Socialism, Communism, Fascism, various religious constructs, all come from a singular source. Tyrannical unilateral control over minds. Left, right, center...all constructs created as a distraction from the real evil there Neo.

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