What started it all.
Watch it now before it's gone! Don't let the terrorists win!
siftbotsays...

Self promoting this video and sending it back into the queue for one more try; last queued Saturday, December 20th, 2014 8:54am PST - promote requested by original submitter speechless.

speechlesssays...

I'm looking forward to .gif memes of this mutating and spreading far and wide all over the internet until every single human being has seen his fucking head explode in some funny way or another. Good luck stopping that Kim.

newtboysays...

They did win that battle :-( , but if we still all see it (even more than would have paid to see it) terrorists lost the war (and so did Sony unless we donate $5 to them every time we watch it for free somewhere). ;-)

I feel those attacking Sony for being 'un-American' and caving to the hackers should be reminded, Sony is a Japanese company, and so is based well inside N Korea's nuclear and/or conventional weapon range.

Gutspillersaid:

Movie got pulled, terrorists won.

speechlesssays...

I really don't think Sony was too concerned about a nuclear attack.There was tremendous pressure from the groups that own the malls who put pressure on the groups that own the theaters which put pressure on Sony. The obvious concern being loss of money if there was a theater attack which could result in people avoiding movie theaters en masse.

Sony is a multinational corporation. Sony Pictures Entertainment (the target of the hack) is based in the USA.

I personally think Sony fucked up here, not just with their ridiculous notorious bad security (still with the plain text passwords? wtf), but by caving in to these scumbags even after the FBI said there was no credible threat. This obviously just opens the door for further bullshit like this from any asshole with a computer and a grudge in the future.

In any event, yeah the movie will be "leaked" (as evidenced by the scene above) so total streisand effect blunder. Apparently these genius hackers don't realize that when a movie like this gets made, many people have "screener" copies of it long before it ever gets released.

newtboysaid:

They did win that battle :-( , but if we still all see it (even more than would have paid to see it) terrorists lost the war (and so did Sony unless we donate $5 to them every time we watch it for free somewhere). ;-)

I feel those attacking Sony for being 'un-American' and caving to the hackers should be reminded, Sony is a Japanese company, and so is based well inside N Korea's nuclear and/or conventional weapon range.

Mikus_Aureliussays...

Really? So we think N Korea is just going to start shelling the corporate headquarters of any company they don't like? I don't think this is a realistic concern.

The ridiculous thing about Sony's decision is:

1) Japanese companies consult with and defer to their government about everything, much more than American companies do.

2) The current Japanese government is happy to give the finger to South Korea and China.

newtboysaid:

I feel those attacking Sony for being 'un-American' and caving to the hackers should be reminded, Sony is a Japanese company, and so is based well inside N Korea's nuclear and/or conventional weapon range.

rich_magnetsays...

I reckon this was all a viral marketing campaign. People who would not otherwise have watched the movie (like myself) will now at least _want_ to watch it.

newtboysays...

Nor do I, but I just meant to point out that they are not 'American', and they (those in charge) are within range of everything from small groups in undetectable small boats up to and including nukes. I think it's the former they might be worried about, it's happened before.
I also agree their prime concern was probably liability, coupled with finance because of lack of theater space to release the movie (since American movie companies backed out, cowards!).
Sony pictures is a subsidiary though, and does what Japan tells them, but are usually left to themselves.
Yes, because it's a tech firm, you would expect them to have MUCH better security. I think THAT'S the biggest scandal here. Did they get all PSN information too? Probably.

speechlesssaid:

I really don't think Sony was too concerned about a nuclear attack.There was tremendous pressure from the groups that own the malls who put pressure on the groups that own the theaters which put pressure on Sony. The obvious concern being loss of money if there was a theater attack which could result in people avoiding movie theaters en masse.

Sony is a multinational corporation. Sony Pictures Entertainment (the target of the hack) is based in the USA.

I personally think Sony fucked up here, not just with their ridiculous notorious bad security (still with the plain text passwords? wtf), but by caving in to these scumbags even after the FBI said there was no credible threat. This obviously just opens the door for further bullshit like this from any asshole with a computer and a grudge in the future.

In any event, yeah the movie will be "leaked" (as evidenced by the scene above) so total streisand effect blunder. Apparently these genius hackers don't realize that when a movie like this gets made, many people have "screener" copies of it long before it ever gets released.

TheFreaksays...

There's a story that everyone is carefully not reporting.

If you read about this movie earlier, based on the hacked internal communications at Sony, none of the international executives wanted to distribute this movie from the very beginning. They thought it was a crap movie that wasn't funny. Nobody thought they could sell it in their markets.

It's clear that Sony is using this opportunity to sink the film because it's not worth distributing.

speechlesssays...

Theories like "it's a viral campaign" or that "Sony tanked it" intentionally are completely out of touch with reality and the facts.

To think they would toss one hundred million dollars in the toilet because the movie wasn't funny enough is nuts. Shitty movies get released all the time.

To think they released terabytes of damaging internal documents (social security numbers, passwords, future projects, embarrassing emails etc etc) as some viral campaign is also nuts.

Sony stock has dropped 7% in the last two weeks.
They did NOT do this.

Truckchasesays...

Agreed! Thinking NK had anything to do with this is in the same line of reasoning.

speechlesssaid:

Theories like "it's a viral campaign" or that "Sony tanked it" intentionally are completely out of touch with reality and the facts.

To think they would toss one hundred million dollars in the toilet because the movie wasn't funny enough is nuts. Shitty movies get released all the time.

To think they released terabytes of damaging internal documents (social security numbers, passwords, future projects, embarrassing emails etc etc) as some viral campaign is also nuts.

Sony stock has dropped 7% in the last two weeks.
They did NOT do this.

rebuildersays...

I don't buy for a minute the idea that Sony alone made the call to cancel the release.

What do you do when you get hit and threatened by what appears to be a rogue state, like happened to Sony? You go to the cops. Probably the FBI in this case. After that, considering your company is now in the middle of an international diplomatic situation involving an unstable nuclear power, you get some considered advice from the US state dept. (probably) on how to proceed.

Judging by the outcome, the decision was it's best to cancel the release to avoid making the situation worse, but to make it Sony's call, because a western government would rather not be seen bending to terror or demanding censorship.

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