Hulu Tube: Phasinig You Out of YouTube

This video, from The Real Weekly News Channel on YouTube, was posted on April 16th, 2009. It raises concerns about recent changes on YouTube.
kronosposeidonsays...

Look at Metacafe's home page; it's the same thing there. It bears no resemblance to the site it was less than a few months ago. What was once cool about these sites is systematically being stripped away. At one time anyone could be a star on YouTube (or Metacafe, or Break, etc.), but now they're making it difficult for the average person to make it big with their special talents. I appreciate what this guy is trying to do, but I also encourage everyone who has original content to start patronizing the smaller sites like Vimeo, Revver, etc. Hell, go international and start posting on MyVideo and Clipser. If YouTube wants to go corporate, take your business elsewhere.

*promote

siftbotsays...

Promoting this video and sending it back into the queue for one more try; last queued Sunday, April 26th, 2009 7:50pm PDT - promote requested by kronosposeidon.

hixsonjsays...

This is pretty much the nature of the web. Sites rise and fall and their respective user communities usually respond pretty quickly to changes they don't like. Every few months Facebook decides to implement some new wacky feature and after everyone complains, they switch back or change it. I agree with kronosposeidon in that a change that drastic to youtube would probably cause a mass exodus to the smaller video sites, for better or worse.

Xaielaosays...

Youtube has been shit for a while now. Nothing but kids and idiots on that website. You could never have an intelligent conversation there.

Videosift ftw.

fragarachsays...

>> ^Xaielao:
Youtube has been shit for a while now. Nothing but kids and idiots on that website. You could never have an intelligent conversation there.
Videosift ftw.


That's actually giving it more credit than it deserves. The reality is that Youtube has always been shit. For every user generated video worth watching there's easily a thousand that are a complete waste of time. If you actually sat down and tried to comb through just the user made content, the amount of garbage on that site simply is staggering. And as a quick look at the Sift's top 20 any day of the week will show you, most of what does get watched and is worth watching is not user created. Meanwhile Google continues to pour half a billion dollars a year into this bottomless hole so it can host videos for people who demand, essentially, that Google continue to lose money hosting this crap.

Now don't get me wrong. I think Youtube and what it's done for internet culture is a wonderful thing, and in a perfect world it would go on forever. We just all knew that wasn't going to happen.

dingenssays...

All I hear is "whine, whine, whine". Google loses 470 million $ on youtube per year and if they want to try and make it profitable, fine! User may or may not like it and move somewhere else, but stop whining!

grubertsays...

I use to make loads of cash out of YouTube, but not anymore.
All those tricks I used to have my videos showing up on the front page are now useless.
YouTube and Google seems to favor large broadcasting corporations over the little guys like me.
It's like I live in a country where business is more important than everything else.
Thissucks.

I'm gonna have a beer now.

The fridge is empty.

Bummer.

Mashikisays...

>> ^dingens:
Google loses 470 million $ on youtube per year and if they want to try and make it profitable, fine! ...

Regardless of whether Google makes or looses money on youtube, is slightly moot. If you turn around, alienate your viewers and customers, then you've already killed yourself. Then it's going to be back to an attempt to rebuild a customer base which is already highly suspect of any of your future motives.

For a company as large as Google, it can be crippling especially with the number of interlinked micro-companies. It's simply naive to believe that it won't hurt consumer perception overall. Despite what many believe, word of mouth is still the largest selling point, and with the Internet moving things faster then I can write this comment. The damage can be done.

ravermansays...

But this is the nature of ALL web companies.

They all start as a good idea with zero revenue and attract a mass of grass roots support. They cross the chasm from private to public they are owned by investors and a board of directors - NOT the community.

YouTube is THE top media host and outlet in the world. It's the 'google' of video. I watch way more video online (via videosift than i do on TV.

What they have been (a community publisher) - is not what they have to be forever (the leading video media provider).

They have 'eaten the lunch' of the tv networks. To take the next step they need to make people go online to watch TV - then the TV networks will have to move online or die.

But it's ok!!! The net community is fickle anyway. They will move on to the next big thing. They dumped news sites and moved to aggregator blogs. They dumped IRC and moved to facebook. Most of the videos i watch are hosted at YouTube - But i watch them on videosift and other blogs. I don't actually go to youTube to watch them.

By abandoning the 'at home video maker', someone else will 'eat that lunch' by taking it to the next level.

ravermansays...

The YouTube community is getting stale anyway. The comments are full of idiots and trolls, and the videos all have 10 fakes and dupes for every original video.

Arianesays...

Yep, the You Tube age is over.

>> ^Mashiki:
>> ^dingens:
Google loses 470 million $ on youtube per year and if they want to try and make it profitable, fine! ...

Regardless of whether Google makes or looses money on youtube, is slightly moot. If you turn around, alienate your viewers and customers, then you've already killed yourself. Then it's going to be back to an attempt to rebuild a customer base which is already highly suspect of any of your future motives.
For a company as large as Google, it can be crippling especially with the number of interlinked micro-companies. It's simply naive to believe that it won't hurt consumer perception overall. Despite what many believe, word of mouth is still the largest selling point, and with the Internet moving things faster then I can write this comment. The damage can be done.


I don't think Google cares. You don't lose $470 million a year on a business model without dumping said business model. The only thing of value is the You Tube name. The whole video discussion format is a money loser. People upload all sorts of crap for free, and stream crap out for free, and because such a large portion of it is pirated copyright material, You Tube cant sell it to advertisers. $470 million in losses is no longer worth the name recognition.

Next step, and you know it is coming, is no more free channels. "You want to post, you pay a subscription, or we yank your videos off."

Will it tick off users? You Bet!

Will it save money on server space? save money on bandwidth? Save a ton of money not having to police for copyright violations? Will hard core users, advocacy groups, non-profits, advertisers, music promoters, book promoters, talent agents etc. find the money to pay to post?
You Bet!

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