Do not mess with a parent - here is why

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lucky760says...

I understand the emotion especially when someone else's inconsiderate, selfish douchebaggery is putting your children at risk, but you can't allow it to overtake your behavior.

Don't let emotions turn into actions, at least not uncontrolled rageful actions. (It'd be better to take down his license plate, find him later, and take your time teaching Homes the error of his ways with the help of some hard pipe-hitting motherfuckers, a pair of pliers, and a blow torch.)

To the father, two words: Dude, maintain.

To the long-hair pink jacket and green beanie wearing Kevin Smith wannabe who finds amusement in endangering other people then watching them get upset, I hope you encounter someone who will wipe that fucking grin off your face in a way you'll never forget.

newtboysays...

You're making the assumption that angry dad has a point to make, and isn't just being angry dad, and that Kevin Smith doesn't have a child in the back seat himself, and that Smith was really driving badly/dangerously.
Dude driving like an asshole? Maybe. We didn't see that happen, and I'm hesitant to take the word of a raving violent asshole.
Dad's driving like an asshole by abandoning his car and child in traffic to scream, then assault someone else, definitely a giant throbbing asshole.
When someone jumps out of their car in traffic and approaches yours, filming them is totally appropriate, and being slightly amused is not abnormal. When someone assaults you by smashing your window into your face, having them arrested and their child removed by CPS is appropriate.

To me this incident is 100% angry dad being the dangerous criminal here. Even if the filmer was driving poorly, the reaction was ridiculously criminal and ACTUAL child abuse (committing a violent crime while driving/abandoning your child is certainly abusive).
Maybe I better get my pipe hitting, blow torch n' pliers using brothers to snatch and teach him a lesson? ;-)

lucky760said:

I understand the emotion especially when someone else's inconsiderate, selfish douchebaggery is putting your children at risk, but you can't allow it to overtake your behavior.

Don't let emotions turn into actions, at least not uncontrolled rageful actions. (It'd be better to take down his license plate, find him later, and take your time teaching Homes the error of his ways with the help of some hard pipe-hitting motherfuckers, a pair of pliers, and a blow torch.)

To the father, two words: Dude, maintain.

To the long-hair pink jacket and green beanie wearing Kevin Smith wannabe who finds amusement in endangering other people then watching them get upset, I hope you encounter someone who will wipe that fucking grin off your face in a way you'll never forget.

lucky760says...

I'm obviously making a big leap in my assumptions, but they're based on the limited hard evidence presented to the court. I am assuming Lardass was not just "driving poorly," but using intentionally dangerous aggressive maneuvers and smiling while he did so.

It is not likely that a father would go so ballistic and try to reprimand someone over their simply not driving very well. If Fatfuck was putting people in danger, I would not consider it unacceptable to approach and question his driving behavior.

I've been on the receiving end many times of douchecocks intentionally swerving into me, slamming on brakes in front of me, etc., and it is definitely something that warrants some kind of response.

If, however, the douchecunt really was simply driving poorly (e.g., failed to signal a lane change, took a couple of seconds to go when the light turned green, wasn't wearing his seatbelt, etc.), then yes, the father is completely at fault and out of his mind.

But based on my Sherlock Holmes-like skills of deduction, my guess is Comicbookstoreguyfromthesimpsons was a huge prick and intentional instigator. With a smile.

newtboysaid:

You're making the assumption that angry dad has a point to make, and isn't just being angry dad, and that Kevin Smith doesn't have a child in the back seat himself.
Dude driving like an asshole? Maybe. We didn't see that happen, and I'm hesitant to take the word of a raving violent asshole.
Dad's driving like an asshole by abandoning his car and child in traffic to scream, then assault someone else, definitely a giant throbbing asshole.
When someone jumps out of their car in traffic and approaches yours, filming them is totally appropriate, and being slightly amused is not abnormal. When someone assaults you by smashing your window into your face, having them arrested and their child removed by CPS is appropriate.

To me this incident is 100% angry dad being the dangerous criminal here. Even if the filmer was driving poorly, the reaction was ridiculously criminal and ACTUAL child abuse (committing a violent crime while driving/abandoning your child is certainly abusive).
Maybe I better get my pipe hitting, blow torch n' pliers using brothers to snatch and teach him a lesson? ;-)

lucky760says...

Just to reply to this one statement, he only starts out as a raving father and only turned into a violent asshole when the asshole with the camera was dismissive, arrogant, and flippant, taunting him into responding with more than words.

I think it's obvious the father probably had a valid reason to be upset with the camera guy. It's just too big a leap to think a guy would go that berserk over casual bad driving, and camera guy's attitude proves he was probably getting a kick out of causing road rage but was too pussy to back up his cowardly bullshit any more than it took him to barely roll down the window.

newtboysaid:

I'm hesitant to take the word of a raving violent asshole.

lucky760says...

To reiterate, I'm not defending the father for leaving his kid in the car or punching out the window. He went way out of control and I'm not on board with that kind of uncivilized behavior. He should have sat in the car and silently stewed.

All I'm saying is that the smirking douchebag was very likely intentionally driving dangerously and/or threateningly. He then is a fucking lowlife scumbag because unlike the father who lost his shit, this guy was still put together and in control with his shitty driving and his flippant, dismissive taunting. He too was acting uncivilized, just in a cowardly way.

newtboysays...

Unfortunately, I can't give the father that much credit, because I've seen many a parent, frazzled by their children or work or driving, have completely inappropriate violent reactions to innocent behavior. I've seen it from my own father, and many others.
That said, to me it's totally possible, even likely that Comicbookguy was being a dangerous dickhead driver...just uncertain.

What is certain is that Angrydad's reaction was completely inappropriate. He 1.left his child alone in a car in traffic 2. started an angry confrontation with his child present and 3. reacted with violence when not acknowledged in the way he wished. Not one of those things is good parenting, and put together it's actually actionable.

I have seen 'professionals' say that the less reply you give an angry/road raging person accosting you in your car, the better. I do understand your point though, that it would make one more angry to feel they are being ignored when they are insistent on being heard.

I don't think it's such a leap to think Angrydad might have gone berserk over nothing in the first place. He went completely berserk over being dismissed, why not go partially berserk over not being allowed to merge? (one of the things that had my father go berserk and actually ram another car over that tiny slight) He smashed the window over being disrespected, not over his child being in danger, so to me it could easily be the initial reason he got out of the car, that he felt disrespected (could be, not is).
Comicbookguy's attitude could be seen as smarmy and provocative, or could be following the often given direction to minimize conversation or reaction as much as possible and continue filming, advice I've seen many a time when 'professionals' discussed how to handle road rage. I'm just not ready to go either way for certain on Comicbookguy without seeing the driving issue that started it and/or knowing what kind of guy he is, but I am certain Angrydad's behavior went WAY too far, provoked or not.

In short, I don't disagree that you may be 100% right about Comicbookguy being the legitimate cause or even deserving of what he got, I just can't say for certain either way based on this scant evidence, but I can be certain that dad was in the wrong, understandable or not. If someone being an asshole is reason to be an asshole one's self, we're going to be knee deep in assholes soon! ;-)

lucky760said:

Just to reply to this one statement, he only starts out as a raving father and only turned into a violent asshole when the asshole with the camera was dismissive, arrogant, and flippant, taunting him into responding with more than words.

I think it's obvious the father probably had a valid reason to be upset with the camera guy. It's just too big a leap to think a guy would go that berserk over casual bad driving, and camera guy's attitude proves he was probably getting a kick out of causing road rage but was too pussy to back up his cowardly bullshit any more than it took him to barely roll down the window.

ChaosEnginesays...

You have literally ZERO evidence of that. In fact, it could be entirely the opposite. Maybe the violent aggressive asshole was trying to force his way into Silent Bobs lane and Silent Bob was having none of it.

I've certainly had it happen to me; where some dumbass gets annoyed at a perceived slight because they don't know the road rules and proceeds to act aggressively towards me.

My reaction is exactly the same as Silent Bobs. I laugh at them, and if it enrages them further... so much the better.

Side note: WTF is up with that window? Shouldn't it be laminated?

lucky760said:

All I'm saying is that the smirking douchebag was very likely intentionally driving dangerously and/or threateningly. He then is a fucking lowlife scumbag because unlike the father who lost his shit, this guy was still put together and in control with his shitty driving and his flippant, dismissive taunting. He too was acting uncivilized, just in a cowardly way.

lucky760says...

All else I feel I should point out is that the reason I feel so certain fat man was the instigator is in his response to the seemingly crazy yelling dad. If you really did nothing and some stranger came to your window yelling at you and you'd done nothing, the natural response of most anyone be one of : "I don't know what your problem is, but I'm sorry you're so upset. Please get away from my car and leave me alone or I'm calling the cops."

To just sit with a shit-eating grin and respond with "Is that it?" to me indicates he's definitely guilty.

Paybacksays...

Sorry man, I've "provoked" this sort of reaction with a guy merely by:

1) Driving at about 10km/h OVER the speed limit,
2) This speed being LESS than what the guy tailgating me obviously wanted to do,
3) Doing a EXTREMELY mild "brake check" ie: barely slowing, just showing brake lights,
4) Waving middle finger after 60 second (actually just over 45 seconds, I timed it) horn blare.

ANYONE who jumps out of their car to confront ANYONE is suffering from road rage. Period. End. Of. Sentence.

lucky760said:

All else I feel I should point out is that the reason I feel so certain fat man was the instigator is in his response to the seemingly crazy yelling dad.

Asmosays...

So in short, everyone is in the wrong and everyone could stand to be a bit more patient and considerate...

I don't see anyone not at fault in this video except perhaps the person in the car in the background. Arguing over which one is the bigger asshole is pointless, they both are pretty huge assholes...

poolcleanersays...

I dunno what happened here but its funny? Anger management, dude. We're men, I get it -- we gotta PROTECT -- go back in time and look at all of the walls and windows these hands have destroyed.

Now look around my present day home, everything is nice and not smashed. Cool, now go enroll, bitch. Not like you're going to have a choice after this hahaha. No thug life for you!

But... too bad there is no douchebag with a camera management.

Stusays...

Worst reason ever. Anyone who has ever approached me like this, guilty or not I answer as such if only to make the person, even a random douche like this window puncher, even more mad for the sake of it simply amusing me.

lucky760said:

To just sit with a shit-eating grin and respond with "Is that it?" to me indicates he's definitely guilty.

Ralghasays...

That angry dad could have easily had a gun and shot the guy in his violent enraged state.

Don't piss people off on the roads and then compound it when they confront you. Is driving like a jerk worth dying for? I guess for some idiots it is. EIA.

Chairman_woosays...

So he's up for charges for assault/vandalism and he punched through glass with bare hands which is likely a trip to hospital (and potential nerve damage).

I think he lost!

Paybacksays...

If the window is closed, it's virtually indestructible by fist. If it's open, however, just leaning on it can break it. (personal knowledge, stood there, forearms hovering over nothing, staring wide-eyed at my friend, who was staring wide-eyed back at me)

Has something to do with being supported all around the edges, as opposed to being able to be bent.

So, everyone take note. If someone is acting like World's Best Dad here, close your window completely. Don't leave it open a crack, might as well be all the way open, from a security standpoint.

Chairman_woosaid:

So he's up for charges for assault/vandalism and he punched through glass with bare hands which is likely a trip to hospital (and potential nerve damage).

I think he lost!

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