Canadian police arrest girl 2 weeks before her death

Bystander caught on video the arrest of an indigenous teenage girl two weeks before her death. She died two days after police dropped her off at a hospital. She left the hospital of her own accord and her body was found later in a forest.

Some activists are making a big deal of the excessive force used in the clip. Interested to hear the sift's take.

More on CBC here:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/manitoba-first-nations-1.3583335
newtboysays...

What excessive force? I saw no punches or kicks FROM the officers, only directed AT them. They seemed to be properly restraining the girl with no injury to her at all, while she was definitely trying to injure the officer and flee.
Had she tried this in America, she would have needed to be hospitalized right then...not for something else 2 weeks later...assuming she survived the arrest.

I think it's pretty insane that some are trying to imply that this arrest had something to do with the hospitalization and/or death that happened 2 weeks later, with absolutely zero evidence or even a theory to support that implication.

kir_mokumsays...

i can't say for sure but it sounds like the "something else" that required her to go to the hospital was being in police custody, which would explain why she ran.

being first nations in manitoba is a very bad thing to be. i mean, being first nations in canada isn't great either, but manitoba is particularly bad.

Shepppardsays...

@kir_mokum

This is Ontario, not Manitoba.

And I'm about ready to take a road trip out to Kenora and find whoever was screaming "LET THE FEMALE COP ARREST HER" and punch him in his damn mouth.

Seriously. She's being arrested, she was legitimately not being beaten, and she was very obviously resisting. At that point, a different gendered cop wouldn't have done anything.

And why does the fact that she died have anything to do with this? She wasn't choke-slammed, shot, hell, I didn't even see any punches thrown in her general direction, so the title of this is completely and utterly misleading.

There's enough stupid videos of cops being retards on the sift, this, however, isn't one that needs to be here.

kir_mokumsays...

i wasn't entirely sure where this took place since it was from CBC manitoba but it was OPP that arrested her.

to your next point, this doesn't show anything extreme but the linked article makes me wonder why she had to go to the hospital and what she died of. it wouldn't be crazy if she was beaten in custody. there is severe racism for first nation in the police force canada wide. but obviously we don't know. there are a lot of pieces missing to this story.

Shepppardsaid:

@kir_mokum

This is Ontario, not Manitoba.

And I'm about ready to take a road trip out to Kenora and find whoever was screaming "LET THE FEMALE COP ARREST HER" and punch him in his damn mouth.

Seriously. She's being arrested, she was legitimately not being beaten, and she was very obviously resisting. At that point, a different gendered cop wouldn't have done anything.

And why does the fact that she died have anything to do with this? She wasn't choke-slammed, shot, hell, I didn't even see any punches thrown in her general direction, so the title of this is completely and utterly misleading.

There's enough stupid videos of cops being retards on the sift, this, however, isn't one that needs to be here.

bcglorfsays...

I'm from Manitoba myself and the juxtaposition of the video showing great restraint by the officer with this quote from the article is my main reason for posting:
Leah Gazan, an Indigenous activist and University of Winnipeg professor, said the officer could've used less forceful tactics to restrain Kokopenace

I don't want to downplay the obstacles faced in the US by African Americans, but I feel really strongly that race relations in Canada between Aboriginals and the country is in a MUCH worse place.

In Canada the past and history between aboriginals and Canada still has been ignored more often than it has been met head on. For both good and ill reasons over our history, we've had a two tiered system of laws that treat separately with you based on whether you are native or not. Originally this was oppressive of native communities, but now it's often the other way around:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/judges-must-weigh-cultural-factors-in-native-sentencing-court-rules/article535585/

The greater problem to try and solve is Canada's native reserve system. Native people living on reserves are more often than not growing up in 3rd world conditions. The worst part is, proposing changes to that system is itself 'racist' against aboriginals. Our reserve system is systematically destroying generations of people based upon their race, and nobody seems to be able to fix the thing .

kir_mokumsaid:

i wasn't entirely sure where this took place since it was from CBC manitoba but it was OPP that arrested her.

to your next point, this doesn't show anything extreme but the linked article makes me wonder why she had to go to the hospital and what she died of. it wouldn't be crazy if she was beaten in custody. there is severe racism for first nation in the police force canada wide. but obviously we don't know. there are a lot of pieces missing to this story.

bcglorfsays...

Further to the complexity of the problem in Canada is this shooting on a native reserve just an hours drive from me. I don't know if it's kosher to link to another sift vid I just uploaded, but I don't wanna bloat this post either. Short version is that a man on reserve shot two people. His uncle was a former chief on the reserve, and after the shooting his uncle and other leaders held the linked press conference.

In the press conference, they make no mention of the victims until the very end and spend the majority of the time describing how the government needs to send them more money to solve the root causes of the problem. A few years ago Harper was lambasted for demanding that reserves post very basic summaries of how they spend government money or risk having it cut. Dakota Tipi was one of the hold outs and still hasn't posted.

http://videosift.com/video/Shooting-on-Canadian-Reserve-Press-conference-by-leaders

siftbotsays...

Moving this video to bcglorf's personal queue. It failed to receive enough votes to get sifted up to the front page within 2 days.

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